Wynnebeck
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Ahem.
If I venture into the Shoutbox tonight, I am fully prepared to read at least once, that the Packer 2016 season is over and that TT needs to be fired.
I got out of the shout box as soon as the Packers made their pick since I knew it would explode
Ignore works wonders
I'm disappointed. I hope Clark will be a good player but wanted Ragland. They could trade up to get him in the 2nd but...
I like the way you think Pokerbrat.
I would love to see them draft Ragland, Mack or Smith, but when is the big question and how do you position yourself to take one? You would have to guess that TT and Co. are fully aware of all 3 players "perceived value" at this time. My guess is Ragland and Mack are close in position with Smith being a round behind.
The fact that TT didn't grab Ragland in the first, leads me to believe the Packers don't value him even as an early 2nd round pick or he just couldn't pass on Clark.
If we see TT start trading up, you might want to brace yourselves to hear one of those names called. Or we may just get lucky and one is on the board and worth the risk when it is our slotted pick.
Here's the thing for me. If the med determinations on the above 3 guys are bad enough to either seriously diminish their ability or out and out prematurely end their careers, then there is zero value in drafting any of them, even in the 7th round.
Trading up from very late in the round to early or even mid round will be very tough to do.
Med determinations for these kinds of issues are rarely definitive in that way. More like a range of possibilites, best case and worst case. It's a risk / reward calculation and ultimately a football decision colored by the decision maker's taste for risk. The longer Thompson's string of playoff appearances, the more conservative he's been in the draft.Here's the thing for me. If the med determinations on the above 3 guys are bad enough to either seriously diminish their ability or out and out prematurely end their careers, then there is zero value in drafting any of them, even in the 7th round.
Trading up from very late in the round to early or even mid round will be very tough to do.
The longer Thompson's string of playoff appearances, the more conservative he's been in the draft.
It would appear Ragland is the least compromised medically from what I've read. I think that's a dead possibility, though. The odds are simply that a less risk averse GM will take the shot before Thompson would consider it.So true and probably my biggest frustration with TT, almost too afraid to make a mistake in the draft or FA market. Not saying he shouldn't be GM, but some of us are fine with seeing him take a bit more risk. In the case of Jack, Ragland or Smith, the risk of the pick can be justified (in my mind) due to the need and potential upside. When you look at the draft history of our 3rd rounders on, how much are we really risking by using one of those picks to play the lottery just once?
If I had to pick a word or term that sums up my problems/criticisms of TT, it would be risk averse.
He has self constructed and self imposed a box with a glass ceiling over it that he will not go past, even with a gun to his head.
Is Clark a **** pick? No. But then again, no team in the whole first round thought that Jack, Ragland, Billings and whoever else didn't make it in round 1 was either.
Did it though? Would this have been a better defense with Rollins at corner and Kendricks in the middle, assuming Rollins didn't get injured, which you certainly would not have predicted at the time? I believe so.As many have pointed out, many of us had an even stronger reaction to the Randall pick last year, but it worked out.
Did it though? Would this have been a better defense with Rollins at corner and Kendricks in the middle, assuming Rollins didn't get injured, which you certainly would not have predicted at the time? I believe so.
In fact, I'm still not convinced Rollins will not prove to be the better perimeter corner if he ever gets a chance to play there.